Talk:Johnny Sasaki
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[edit] Johnny from Snake Eater
Isn't Johnny from Snake Eater Sasaki's father, as opposed to his grandfather? Wouldn't he be too young to be two generations down? I may be being stupid. Andre666 19:46, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- In MGS3, Johnny said his father's name was Johnny as well. So Johnny from MGS1 and MGS4's father is named Johnny, who's father is also named Johnny. They're all Johnnys and they all have the same last name. "All the first-born sons in my family are called Johnny. My dad's a Johnny, and my son's son will probably be a Johnny, too."--Richard 21:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah but MGS3 Johnny would surely be the middle one in that line, i.e. Johnny > MGS3 Johnny > MGS/4 Johnny. 1964 = MGS3 Johnny, new born son would be 40 by MGS1, no? It would fit better if MGS3 was the grandfather, but I just don't see how; there is no concrete proof. Andre666 08:11, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
- It's impossible for Johnny Saskai (MGS3) to be Johnny Saskai (MGS1/4)'s father. That would make Johnny 50 years old AT THE VERY LEAST. Johnny in MGS1/4 is just not that old. Johnny in MGS3's son has been born as of 1964, so in 2014 this son will be 50 years old at the very least. So.... the only logical explanation is that this man in 1964 is Johnny's grandfather. AlexF 03:25, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
- I agree bro, so i hope you don't mind if i changed it to just Johnny's grandfather on the trivia. BigBØss 2:15, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Requested Split
Regardless of how similar Johnny and his granfather are, the fact remains that they are still two different characters and should be treated as such. It'd be one thing if this was Wikipedia, where fictional characters had to have a certain amount of notability to warrant them having their own article, but this is a Wiki dedicated to just the Metal Gear series. With this in mind, I really see no reason not to make a seperate article for Johnny's grandfather. –Nahald 20:22, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- While you are right, there just isn't enough Info on Johnny's grandfather to warrant his own article. It's so much easier to have them both on one page like this. --Fantomas 22:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
- Well compared to the amount of information available on some of the other characters who have their own articles, I would say that there is decent amount of information on Johnny's grandfather to warrant his own article. Besides, it's confusing to have an article for two different characters. I mean should Johnny's infobox speak for both characters? Should we put Russian AND American under his nationality? Should we add GRU to the list of Johnny's affiliations? It would get pretty confusing if we did that, but at the same time, we can't just leave out this info just because of that. Because of this, I think the best solution would be to simply give Johnny's grandfather his own article. –Nahald 04:13, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, but I don't think there is enough information. It would be kind of pointless. Perhaps we should just add a section in this article, giving that section its own infobox? -Chaos91 20:41, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I suppose that would work, although it could make the article seem a bit "cluttered." –Nahald 23:50, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
- I agree, but I don't think there is enough information. It would be kind of pointless. Perhaps we should just add a section in this article, giving that section its own infobox? -Chaos91 20:41, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Trivia
I changed the 'akiba' in '"Akiba" is Japanese slang similar in meaning to "otaku."' to 'Akibakei' because that's the actual slang, Akiba is just slang for Akihabara.
In the trivia section it is said that it appears hes attracted to mei ling, due to a cutscene in GotP. Can someone cite this? I can't remember it. The Man In The Black Cape 19:30, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- I think its during Act 5's briefing, he tries to grab Mei Ling's buttocks.--Richardtalk 20:35, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, it's in Act 5's briefing. --Fantomas 23:02, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
- That was pretty funny, with Meryl's reaction to it and all... Ghost Leader 16:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] Unbelievable
Now I do realize that the MGS story is so complex that few can even hope to comprehend it, but how in the world does this guy take part in two, count them, two insurrections against the United States without at least going to prison for the rest of his life (execution would be most likely), much less actually remain in the US Army? Ghost Leader 16:36, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
[edit] The Next Snake?
SPOILER Alert:
Maybe I'm alone on this one, but when Johnny took off his mask in MGS4, did anyone else gasp at the resemblance to a young Snake? One of Big Boss's names is "John" as well. "All the first-born sons in my family are called Johnny. My dad's a Johnny, and my son's son will probably be a Johnny, too." Could Johnny Sasaki be the next Snake? I know, the crap jokes are a bit much, but if they're able to turn Raiden from a whiny recruit into the badass he is in MGS4 and hopefully will be in Metal Gear Solid: Rising, maybe they can spruce Akiba up as well. You heard it here first!--WhitefireNeo 06:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- You suggesting they completely forget all of Johnny's character development and then turn him into a clone of another character in order to make him a "bad-ass" despite the fact that his character doesn't need fixing in anyway, it would be simply to please moron fans who don't have an open mind, just like they did to Raiden? No thanks. --Fantomas 10:48, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Raiden is still about as bad-ass as a wimpy flea in my eyes, always has been and always will be. As far as Akiba, I am glad he played a more serious role in MGS4, but I can't really see him heading up his own MGS game. Ghost Leader
- What is your reasoning for thinking Raiden is a "wimpy flea", out of curiosity? --Fantomas 16:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Well, maybe "wimpy flea" was a bit of an exaggeration, but I just never liked him from the beginning. Right off the bat, he struck me as a whiny little kid who complained when things didn't go his way or someone didn't tell him something. And even him getting the cyborg ninja treatment and "saving" Snake in MGS4 didn't do enough to endear him to me. No disrespect intended toward Raiden fans, of course. Ghost Leader
- What is your reasoning for thinking Raiden is a "wimpy flea", out of curiosity? --Fantomas 16:07, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Raiden is still about as bad-ass as a wimpy flea in my eyes, always has been and always will be. As far as Akiba, I am glad he played a more serious role in MGS4, but I can't really see him heading up his own MGS game. Ghost Leader
- I agree somewhat, i think his likeness to solid snake is obvious towards the end of MSG4. Say at his own wedding, his hair, facial hair, face, etc are very like that of solid snake. The only thing is that he is blonde, but as far as i can tell that even gets more dark as the game goes on, and just as i saw more and more resemblance to solid. I'm not saying it's another big boss clone, if there's a link then it could be anything; big boss clone, solid snake clone, literal blood relative of snake, etc etc. Lynchy010 21:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
