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January 3, 2010

Hi, welcome to the Metal Gear Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Big Boss page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Fantomas (Talk) 20:59, January 3, 2010

I stopped blocking you a while ago, buddy. --Fantomas 20:59, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

About your statement.

Again, I know that the CIA was involved with the Bay of Pigs invasion, but that does NOT mean that FOX has to be involved. Heck, at the time of both the North Vietnam covert ops (pegged around 1960-61) and the Bay of Pigs invasion, FOX would not have even been recognised as a CIA unit, and at best would have been considered a mercenary group. Weedle McHairybug 21:02, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Good enough for me.

You're welcome. BTW, Weren't you that guy who thanked me on that Suzetta Minet board in regards to her appearance in Peace Walker? Also, are you the username with the IP number that started with 70? Weedle McHairybug 21:17, January 3, 2010 (UTC)


Ah, I see. Well, we at least know Snake joined it in 1964 then, right? --Bluerock 21:30, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

Though, thinking about it, I guess Snake must have met Zero during his time with FOX, so he must have been a member before this. His dialogue at the beginning of MGS3 suggests it wasn't very long though, as he says he's a bit rusty with his CQC skills from being in the Green Berets. Anyway, whatever the case, I'll change the Big Boss article so it doesn't say for definite when exactly he joined. --Bluerock 21:50, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

BTW, going by what was said about the Virtuous Mission being needed to make them into an official CIA-based unit (if not an official unit, period), I'm going to guess that FOX was not one of the units that was sent to North Vietnam for covert operations (as it wasn't even recognized yet.). I'm definitely sure that FOX was also not involved in the Bay of Pigs Invasion (The Boss was directly involved in that mission, as she stated in explaining what her life was like prior to fighting Naked Snake for the last time. Going by what Zero said about her being a mission advisor, IF FOX was even involved in that mission, she would have been on the sidelines. That's also not even taking into account the fact that the FOX unit wasn't even an official unit yet, either for the CIA or other branches of the American Government/Military.). Not to imply anything about Python being a Green Beret, but whatever CIA mission that Jack and Python were doing in regards to the covert operations in North Vietnam, it definitely wasn't while they were in the FOX unit. Weedle McHairybug 21:47, January 3, 2010 (UTC)

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